Chances are I've sent you here because you overlap and match on a segment with a known relative who shares the "Campbell" family with my dad or your family tree makes it highly likely you're related to my Campbell family somehow. For ease of searching I'm going to make a list of Campbell ancestors here.
Here is my dad's list of ancestors by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
William John Campbell
Birth 21 Aug 1857 in Komoka, Middlesex City, Upper Canada
Death 15 Apr 1936 in Montrose, Genesee, Michigan
Adelia Frances Light
Birth 23 Jun 1865 in Vienna, Elgin City, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1894 in Flint, Michigan, USA, Genesee Co.
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
Duncan Campbell
Birth 1828 in Ontario, Canada
Nancy J Osborne
Birth abt 1836 in Canada
Lazarus Light
Birth 8 May 1830 in Downton, England, United Kingdom
Death 1906 in Vienna, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Abbe
Birth 10 Jan 1827 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death 10 Mar 1890 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
John Campbell
Birth 1804 in Argyllshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death 18 Apr 1881 in Lambton, Ontario, Canada
Catherine Anne McArthur
Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Death 4 Jan 1874 in Halton, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Nancy Osborne born 1836 Canada
..pos William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
George Light
Birth 16 Feb 1783 in Downton, Herefordshire, England
Death 12 Mar 1864 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Mary Clarke
Birth 01 Jan 1788 in England
Death 12 Sep 1871 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Daniel Abbe
Birth 8 Nov 1801 in Granby, Hampshire, Massachusetts
Death 1849 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Esther Nunn
Birth July 23 1809 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1875 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Patrick Campbell
Birth 1775 in Inveraray, Argyll, Scotland
Death 25 Sep 1848 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Ann McArthur
Birth 1776 in Argyll, Scotland
Death 1 Jun 1869 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Catherine Anne McArthur Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Parens of William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
Parents of George Light born 1783 Herefordshire Eng.
John Clarke
Birth Jul 1751 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1 Apr 1825 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Sarah Unknown
Birth 1754 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1844 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Abner Abbe
Birth 5 Nov 1758 in North Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Death 13 Dec 1805 in Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Sarah Swetland
Birth 22 Aug 1762 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, United States
Death 1815 in Connecticut, United States
Benjamin Nunn
Birth 16 Apr 1775 in Bucks, Pennsylvania
Death Nov 1862 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Fretz
Birth 22 Apr 1789 in Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA
Death Jun 1863 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Sorting out the Puzzle Pieces in My Big Messy Family
Showing posts with label Campbell. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Campbell. Show all posts
Tuesday, September 9, 2014
Monday, September 8, 2014
Autosomal DNA Mile Marker
Now that I have many maternal and paternal segments worked out I thought it would be good to put up some graphics of the general map. Again using Kitty Munson Cooper's segment mapper utility to get great visual representations of the segments using my dad as the base person.
To be clear, this won't represent all of the matches for my dad, just those known to be maternal or paternal right now.
Here are his Seelye Campbell and Beadle relatives along with other known "found" maternal matches.
Blue is a Beadle only relative. Light blue Campbell only. Red various maternal genetic relatives. Peach Seelye side only (would include the Beadle family DNA too). Green Seelye Campbell which basically represents everything Seelye, Beadle or Campbell.
You can see I have lots and lots of coverage with multiple maternal relatives, sometimes matching each other and sometimes going off on their own, but I benefit from having so many maternal only relatives to check against (up to and including my dad's maternal uncle there in green).
Here is the condensed version of that map. All maternal matches.
You can see there are some gaps, but with all those layers of relatives tested, we've filled in quite a bit. The X is all maternal, but those are the matches available which is interesting. Because of this coverage it is much more likely that I can place a match as maternal.
It's good to note here that the kind of coverage you see in the consolidated maternal map required four people at various distances to get tested.
Here is the one known paternal relative on our Finks side along with various paternal matches:
Light blue is anyone I've determined to be paternal. Usually because their group of matches does not match a known maternal group. Dark blue is the known Finks relative, sometimes illuminating unknown paternal matches and sometimes breaking new ground.
Here is the consolidated version of that map, all paternal including the Finks family. You can see that even though I am using the shadow cast from my dad's maternal matches, I am still struggling without closer known paternal relatives to test. My grandfather had no siblings and my attempt to fill in with our Thompson cousins did not show any matches, so there are more gaps to fall through on this side of things.
That may sound bitter, but I'm not. I am exceptionally grateful for my Finks family tester. I've learned a lot since getting those results back from FTDNA. I think doing this kind of analysis is just opening my eyes to the value of testing multiple known relatives on the same side of a family (assuming you can't test your target person..in my case my grandparents).
Here is a map showing both maternal and paternal segments as they overlap. It's a great display that shows what I'm missing on that paternal side.
In this instance, red is matneral and blue paternal. Paternal matches aren't breaking tons of new ground here, probably because the maternal coverage is so good. In many cases, it's not that I wouldn't know a maternal match from a paternal match, just that no paternal matches have come in.
You can see some of that in the maternal chart above that shows the breakdown of known Seelye side relatives compared to organic "maternal" matches found at 23 and me and Gedmatch. In that chart red is just maternal "found" matches, while the other colors (peach, green etc..) are the tested known relatives.
Without those known tester matches the map is even more bleak and for the most part, I would have no idea which side of the family a triangulated group of matches was on. So thanks go out to the "knowns"!
To be clear, this won't represent all of the matches for my dad, just those known to be maternal or paternal right now.
Here are his Seelye Campbell and Beadle relatives along with other known "found" maternal matches.
You can see I have lots and lots of coverage with multiple maternal relatives, sometimes matching each other and sometimes going off on their own, but I benefit from having so many maternal only relatives to check against (up to and including my dad's maternal uncle there in green).
Here is the condensed version of that map. All maternal matches.
It's good to note here that the kind of coverage you see in the consolidated maternal map required four people at various distances to get tested.
Here is the one known paternal relative on our Finks side along with various paternal matches:
Light blue is anyone I've determined to be paternal. Usually because their group of matches does not match a known maternal group. Dark blue is the known Finks relative, sometimes illuminating unknown paternal matches and sometimes breaking new ground.
Here is the consolidated version of that map, all paternal including the Finks family. You can see that even though I am using the shadow cast from my dad's maternal matches, I am still struggling without closer known paternal relatives to test. My grandfather had no siblings and my attempt to fill in with our Thompson cousins did not show any matches, so there are more gaps to fall through on this side of things.
That may sound bitter, but I'm not. I am exceptionally grateful for my Finks family tester. I've learned a lot since getting those results back from FTDNA. I think doing this kind of analysis is just opening my eyes to the value of testing multiple known relatives on the same side of a family (assuming you can't test your target person..in my case my grandparents).
Here is a map showing both maternal and paternal segments as they overlap. It's a great display that shows what I'm missing on that paternal side.
In this instance, red is matneral and blue paternal. Paternal matches aren't breaking tons of new ground here, probably because the maternal coverage is so good. In many cases, it's not that I wouldn't know a maternal match from a paternal match, just that no paternal matches have come in.
You can see some of that in the maternal chart above that shows the breakdown of known Seelye side relatives compared to organic "maternal" matches found at 23 and me and Gedmatch. In that chart red is just maternal "found" matches, while the other colors (peach, green etc..) are the tested known relatives.
Without those known tester matches the map is even more bleak and for the most part, I would have no idea which side of the family a triangulated group of matches was on. So thanks go out to the "knowns"!
Tuesday, July 16, 2013
Ancestors by Cousinship
At 23 and me, you'll often get an idea of Cousinship with a match request. It will say something like "estimated 4th cousin with a range of 3rd to 5th cousin" or "5th to distant cousin". So far, I've been lucky enough to gather one second cousin 1x removed and one 4th cousin 1x removed for my father. Since 23 and me rolls out to 5th cousins in estimates I'll go from 2nd to 5th here as best I can. Some lines in my family end at second great grandparents for my dad so I've tried to note them in every generation as parents of or grandparents of a known person. I'm lucky to have a pretty decent tree, but there are still bald spots.
I've split out another paper trail Thompson list of ancestors that fits the records I've been able to find. I have a hunch the U152 Indiana Thompson branch will fit that tree better. Since it's in contention for my family though, it would probably just muddy the waters of people looking for cousinship matches at FTDNA, Gedmatch.com or 23 and me.
This list I will try to keep at a more Genetic level for my U106 Michigan Thompson line, Finks, Seelye and Campbell families. These are the family lines I've been able to solidify at a basic level through DNA testing. For example, although there are likely to be errors in the Finks family tree, through testing a Finks relative, I know we're related genetically to the Finks family.
Here is my dad's list of ancestors by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
Robert Sanford Finks
Birth 16 Sep 1879 in Mackinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, USA
Ida Ellen Mitchell (Michel)
Birth Jul 1883 in Illinois, USA
McKendree Thomas Seelye
Birth 10 Nov 1858 in Hadley, Lapeer, Michigan, United States
Death 19 Jul 1953 in Montrose, Gennessee, Michigan, United States
Clara Elizabeth Beadle
Birth 1 Apr 1864 in Ypsilanti, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Death 3 Jul 1925 in Lum, Lapeer, Michigan, United States
William John Campbell
Birth 21 Aug 1857 in Komoka, Middlesex City, Upper Canada
Death 15 Apr 1936 in Montrose, Genesee, Michigan
Adelia Frances Light
Birth 23 Jun 1865 in Vienna, Elgin City, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1894 in Flint, Michigan, USA, Genesee Co.
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
William Jackson Finks
Birth Sep 22 1837 in Culpepper county, Virginia, USA
Death 6 May 1922 in TAZEWELL CO., ILLINOIS
Telitha Hibbard
Birth abt 1845 in Illinois, USA
Death after 1910
Charles Auguste Mitchell (Michel)
Birth 30 Mar 1834 in Croismare, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Death 1889 in Tazewell County, Illinois, USA
Margaret A PERNELL
Birth 27 Jan 1853 in Pekin, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Death 9 Dec 1927 in Groveland, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Thomas Seelye
Birth 4 Feb 1821 in Westmoreland, Oneida Co., New York
Death 3 Jan 1895 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., Michigan
Naomi Dorothea Sutherland
Birth 7 Sep 1822 in Cambria, Niagara, New York, United States
Death 10 Dec 1904 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., Michigan
Myron Henry Beadle
Birth 30 Nov 1838 in Pennsylvania, United States
Death 18 Jan 1915 in Unadilla, Livingston, Michigan, United States
Ellen Mariah Hathaway
Birth 11 Sep 1843 in York, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Death 3 Sep 1923 in Unadilla, Livingston, Michigan, United States
Duncan Campbell
Birth 1828 in Ontario, Canada
Nancy J Osborne
Birth abt 1836 in Canada
Lazarus Light
Birth 8 May 1830 in Downton, England, United Kingdom
Death 1906 in Vienna, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Abbe
Birth 10 Jan 1827 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death 10 Mar 1890 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
John Finks
Birth 1793 in Rappahannock County, Virginia, USA
Death Nov 1871 in MacKinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Winifred McQueen
Birth 1791 in Rappahannock County, Virginia, USA
Death 6 sep 1859 in MacKinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Mortimer G Hibbard
Birth abt 1827 in Ohio, USA
Philicy Felicia Ann Jeffers (Jeffries)
View relationship to me
Birth 1821 in Kentucky, USA
Jean Louis Mitchell Michel
Death 8 Dec 1862 in Tazewell County, Illinois, USA
Anne Aubert
Birth 13 May 1799 in Haudonville, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Parents of Margaret Pernell born 1853 in Tazewell Ill
...pos John Pernell and Mary Ann Lambert
Cornelius Seeley
Birth 3 Sep 1796 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, USA
Death 4 Mar 1866 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, USA
Rachel Smith
Birth 1 Oct 1800 in New York, United States
Death 18 Oct 1843 in Ohio, United States
Andrew Sutherland
Birth 3 Sep 1776 in Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Death 27 Feb 1836 in Cambria, Niagara, New York, United States
Naomi Annie Cooley
Birth 6 Oct 1788 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Death 15 Dec 1870 in Romeo, Macomb, Michigan, United States
Frederick Beadle
Birth 22 Apr 1813 in New York, United States
Death 13 Mar 1872 in Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Christina Scoby
Birth abt 1820 in New York, United States
Death 1862 in Wheatland Center, Hillsdale, Michigan, United States
Isaac Baldwin Hathaway
Birth 23 Apr 1817 in of, Wayne, New York, United States
Death 21 Dec 1906 in Parma, Jackson, Michigan, United States
Eliza Ann Morey
Birth 1819 in Milton, Ulster County, New York
Death 1846 in Pittsfield, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
John Campbell
Birth 1804 in Argyllshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death 18 Apr 1881 in Lambton, Ontario, Canada
Catherine Anne McArthur
Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Death 4 Jan 1874 in Halton, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Nancy Osborne born 1836 Canada
..pos William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
George Light
Birth 16 Feb 1783 in Downton, Herefordshire, England
Death 12 Mar 1864 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Mary Clarke
Birth 01 Jan 1788 in England
Death 12 Sep 1871 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Daniel Abbe
Birth 8 Nov 1801 in Granby, Hampshire, Massachusetts
Death 1849 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Esther Nunn
Birth July 23 1809 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1875 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Andrew Finks?
Birth Virginia
Mary Fielding..or maybe Lucy Vawter (wife of Andrew Finks)
Samuel McQueen
Birth 1762 in Culpeper, Culpeper, Virginia, United States
Death 1815 in Culpeper, Culpeper, Virginia, United States
Martha Unknown
Birth 1758
Death 1821 in Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Elias Hibbard
Birth 4 Mar 1797 in Fairhaven, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Death abt 1846 in Clark, Illinois, United States
Diadama Amanda Darcy Bridge
Birth 1804 in Canada
Death 1890 in Fulton County, Illinois, USA
William Jeffries
Birth 1783 in Virginia, United States
Death 1823 in Washington, Kentucky, United States
Ann Jett
Birth Abt 1785 in Virginia, United States
Death Aft 1840
Parents of Jean Michel and Ann Aubert from France
Parents of John Pernell?
Parents of Mary Ann Lambert (pos Joseph Lambert and Margaret Smilaire)
Daniel Seeley
Birth 1 Jul 1763 in Deer Park, Orange, New York, United States
Death 29 May 1840 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Phoebe Fulkerson
Birth 20 Feb 1768 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Death 13 May 1803 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Parents of Rachel Smith (pos Thomas Smith and "Betts")
Peter Sutherland
Birth 1756-02-20 Bangall, Dutchess, New York, USA
Death 1828-05-00 Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Carol Bush
Birth 1754 in Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Benjamin Cooley
Birth 30 Apr 1747 in Greenwich, Hampshire, Massachusetts, United States
Death 27 February 1810 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Ruth Beach
Birth 11 Jan 1756 in Morristown, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 5 Sep 1825 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Parents of Frederick Beadle born 1813 NY
Parents of Christina Scoby born 1820 NY
ISAAC Hathaway
Birth 19 Mar 1777 in Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 17 Feb 1848 in York, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Mary Heddon
Birth 27 Jan 1778 in Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 14 Aug 1849 in Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Parents of Eliza Ann Morey born 1819 Ulster NY
Patrick Campbell
Birth 1775 in Inveraray, Argyll, Scotland
Death 25 Sep 1848 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Ann McArthur
Birth 1776 in Argyll, Scotland
Death 1 Jun 1869 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Catherine Anne McArthur Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Parens of William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
Parents of George Light born 1783 Herefordshire Eng.
John Clarke
Birth Jul 1751 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1 Apr 1825 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Sarah Unknown
Birth 1754 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1844 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Abner Abbe
Birth 5 Nov 1758 in North Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Death 13 Dec 1805 in Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Sarah Swetland
Birth 22 Aug 1762 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, United States
Death 1815 in Connecticut, United States
Benjamin Nunn
Birth 16 Apr 1775 in Bucks, Pennsylvania
Death Nov 1862 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Fretz
Birth 22 Apr 1789 in Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA
Death Jun 1863 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
I've split out another paper trail Thompson list of ancestors that fits the records I've been able to find. I have a hunch the U152 Indiana Thompson branch will fit that tree better. Since it's in contention for my family though, it would probably just muddy the waters of people looking for cousinship matches at FTDNA, Gedmatch.com or 23 and me.
This list I will try to keep at a more Genetic level for my U106 Michigan Thompson line, Finks, Seelye and Campbell families. These are the family lines I've been able to solidify at a basic level through DNA testing. For example, although there are likely to be errors in the Finks family tree, through testing a Finks relative, I know we're related genetically to the Finks family.
Here is my dad's list of ancestors by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
Robert Sanford Finks
Birth 16 Sep 1879 in Mackinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, USA
Ida Ellen Mitchell (Michel)
Birth Jul 1883 in Illinois, USA
McKendree Thomas Seelye
Birth 10 Nov 1858 in Hadley, Lapeer, Michigan, United States
Death 19 Jul 1953 in Montrose, Gennessee, Michigan, United States
Clara Elizabeth Beadle
Birth 1 Apr 1864 in Ypsilanti, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Death 3 Jul 1925 in Lum, Lapeer, Michigan, United States
William John Campbell
Birth 21 Aug 1857 in Komoka, Middlesex City, Upper Canada
Death 15 Apr 1936 in Montrose, Genesee, Michigan
Adelia Frances Light
Birth 23 Jun 1865 in Vienna, Elgin City, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1894 in Flint, Michigan, USA, Genesee Co.
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
William Jackson Finks
Birth Sep 22 1837 in Culpepper county, Virginia, USA
Death 6 May 1922 in TAZEWELL CO., ILLINOIS
Telitha Hibbard
Birth abt 1845 in Illinois, USA
Death after 1910
Charles Auguste Mitchell (Michel)
Birth 30 Mar 1834 in Croismare, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Death 1889 in Tazewell County, Illinois, USA
Margaret A PERNELL
Birth 27 Jan 1853 in Pekin, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Death 9 Dec 1927 in Groveland, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Thomas Seelye
Birth 4 Feb 1821 in Westmoreland, Oneida Co., New York
Death 3 Jan 1895 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., Michigan
Naomi Dorothea Sutherland
Birth 7 Sep 1822 in Cambria, Niagara, New York, United States
Death 10 Dec 1904 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., Michigan
Myron Henry Beadle
Birth 30 Nov 1838 in Pennsylvania, United States
Death 18 Jan 1915 in Unadilla, Livingston, Michigan, United States
Ellen Mariah Hathaway
Birth 11 Sep 1843 in York, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Death 3 Sep 1923 in Unadilla, Livingston, Michigan, United States
Duncan Campbell
Birth 1828 in Ontario, Canada
Nancy J Osborne
Birth abt 1836 in Canada
Lazarus Light
Birth 8 May 1830 in Downton, England, United Kingdom
Death 1906 in Vienna, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Abbe
Birth 10 Jan 1827 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death 10 Mar 1890 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
John Finks
Birth 1793 in Rappahannock County, Virginia, USA
Death Nov 1871 in MacKinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Winifred McQueen
Birth 1791 in Rappahannock County, Virginia, USA
Death 6 sep 1859 in MacKinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Mortimer G Hibbard
Birth abt 1827 in Ohio, USA
Philicy Felicia Ann Jeffers (Jeffries)
View relationship to me
Birth 1821 in Kentucky, USA
Jean Louis Mitchell Michel
Death 8 Dec 1862 in Tazewell County, Illinois, USA
Anne Aubert
Birth 13 May 1799 in Haudonville, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Parents of Margaret Pernell born 1853 in Tazewell Ill
...pos John Pernell and Mary Ann Lambert
Cornelius Seeley
Birth 3 Sep 1796 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, USA
Death 4 Mar 1866 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, USA
Rachel Smith
Birth 1 Oct 1800 in New York, United States
Death 18 Oct 1843 in Ohio, United States
Andrew Sutherland
Birth 3 Sep 1776 in Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Death 27 Feb 1836 in Cambria, Niagara, New York, United States
Naomi Annie Cooley
Birth 6 Oct 1788 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Death 15 Dec 1870 in Romeo, Macomb, Michigan, United States
Frederick Beadle
Birth 22 Apr 1813 in New York, United States
Death 13 Mar 1872 in Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Christina Scoby
Birth abt 1820 in New York, United States
Death 1862 in Wheatland Center, Hillsdale, Michigan, United States
Isaac Baldwin Hathaway
Birth 23 Apr 1817 in of, Wayne, New York, United States
Death 21 Dec 1906 in Parma, Jackson, Michigan, United States
Eliza Ann Morey
Birth 1819 in Milton, Ulster County, New York
Death 1846 in Pittsfield, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
John Campbell
Birth 1804 in Argyllshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death 18 Apr 1881 in Lambton, Ontario, Canada
Catherine Anne McArthur
Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Death 4 Jan 1874 in Halton, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Nancy Osborne born 1836 Canada
..pos William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
George Light
Birth 16 Feb 1783 in Downton, Herefordshire, England
Death 12 Mar 1864 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Mary Clarke
Birth 01 Jan 1788 in England
Death 12 Sep 1871 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Daniel Abbe
Birth 8 Nov 1801 in Granby, Hampshire, Massachusetts
Death 1849 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Esther Nunn
Birth July 23 1809 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1875 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Andrew Finks?
Birth Virginia
Mary Fielding..or maybe Lucy Vawter (wife of Andrew Finks)
Samuel McQueen
Birth 1762 in Culpeper, Culpeper, Virginia, United States
Death 1815 in Culpeper, Culpeper, Virginia, United States
Martha Unknown
Birth 1758
Death 1821 in Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Elias Hibbard
Birth 4 Mar 1797 in Fairhaven, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Death abt 1846 in Clark, Illinois, United States
Diadama Amanda Darcy Bridge
Birth 1804 in Canada
Death 1890 in Fulton County, Illinois, USA
William Jeffries
Birth 1783 in Virginia, United States
Death 1823 in Washington, Kentucky, United States
Ann Jett
Birth Abt 1785 in Virginia, United States
Death Aft 1840
Parents of Jean Michel and Ann Aubert from France
Parents of John Pernell?
Parents of Mary Ann Lambert (pos Joseph Lambert and Margaret Smilaire)
Daniel Seeley
Birth 1 Jul 1763 in Deer Park, Orange, New York, United States
Death 29 May 1840 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Phoebe Fulkerson
Birth 20 Feb 1768 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Death 13 May 1803 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Parents of Rachel Smith (pos Thomas Smith and "Betts")
Peter Sutherland
Birth 1756-02-20 Bangall, Dutchess, New York, USA
Death 1828-05-00 Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Carol Bush
Birth 1754 in Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Benjamin Cooley
Birth 30 Apr 1747 in Greenwich, Hampshire, Massachusetts, United States
Death 27 February 1810 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Ruth Beach
Birth 11 Jan 1756 in Morristown, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 5 Sep 1825 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Parents of Frederick Beadle born 1813 NY
Parents of Christina Scoby born 1820 NY
ISAAC Hathaway
Birth 19 Mar 1777 in Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 17 Feb 1848 in York, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Mary Heddon
Birth 27 Jan 1778 in Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 14 Aug 1849 in Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Parents of Eliza Ann Morey born 1819 Ulster NY
Patrick Campbell
Birth 1775 in Inveraray, Argyll, Scotland
Death 25 Sep 1848 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Ann McArthur
Birth 1776 in Argyll, Scotland
Death 1 Jun 1869 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Catherine Anne McArthur Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Parens of William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
Parents of George Light born 1783 Herefordshire Eng.
John Clarke
Birth Jul 1751 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1 Apr 1825 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Sarah Unknown
Birth 1754 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1844 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Abner Abbe
Birth 5 Nov 1758 in North Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Death 13 Dec 1805 in Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Sarah Swetland
Birth 22 Aug 1762 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, United States
Death 1815 in Connecticut, United States
Benjamin Nunn
Birth 16 Apr 1775 in Bucks, Pennsylvania
Death Nov 1862 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Fretz
Birth 22 Apr 1789 in Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA
Death Jun 1863 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Thursday, May 23, 2013
Defining Boundaries...or the Blind Men and the Elephant
To date, I've learned much more through regular paper channels about my family. Getting documentation is actually helping me solidify DNA testing, not the other way around. It's probably because it's so early in this game, there just aren't enough people who know enough about their trees to make any educated guesses.
When I contact matches, usually they are the only members of their families that have tested. So I am in a minority in that case because I can definitively place a match on my mother's or father's side. So far though, I have amazing clues that seem to add up to something, like the odd amount of Stinsons/Stevensons in some of my matches trees. But without a clear paper trail leading me to them, I have not the slightest idea where they might fit in.
To me, that means I need to be creative about finding more possible paper records for family members and also I need to help define the boundaries of my related families. Obviously the best next step for me would be to test either a grandfather or grandmother, but I have none of those left. So now I intend to feel around the edges of those people to see if I can get a picture of what they might be like.
Like judging the size of a planet by noting it's gravitational pull on things around it.
On my paternal side, I have these four family groups defined by my grandparents. My grandfather is Finks/Thompson and my grandmother is Seelye/Campbell. I am lucky to have a living sibling of my grandmother and even luckier that he has agreed to test. So, I can define the Seelye Campbell line in a chunk.
Nicely I've gotten some recent nearer matches that appear to me to be on my Seelye/Campbell side. One on the Seelye side in the form of a Beadle who matches with a third great grandparent Beadle family. The second is a match on the Campbell side which carries a nice big chunk of the X for my dad. My dad's X is an exact copy of one of my grandmother's X chromosomes and so that maternal match makes complete sense. The common ancestors are third great grandparents to my father, The Abbes.
So getting my dad's Seelye uncle tested may help bring all of that together and may help tie up many other matches as well. Hopefully he shares enough DNA in common with my father to split some people off into respective family groups.
Next, I need to help define the Thompson Finks family. My grandfather has no siblings that I know of, so we're going to attempt to get a first cousin of his, on the Finks side, to provide their DNA. Because it's a cousin it likely will not be as good a match as the Seelye Uncle, but the hope is that we can identify some of our Finks matches and help tie them up.
Last but not least, the Thompsons can come from a number of sources, most second cousins of my father. It may be possible to pull together at least one other direct descendant of Levi Thompson for testing as well as living Williamson relatives, but they will require a bit more work as they have not all been identified.
It's good to remember that when I'm looking at results, I can help define Seelye matches, but I can also use the same results to define those who are NOT Seelye matches.
As an example, if my father matches up with the Finks tester on chromosome 2 220000 to 320000 and he has another match in roughly the same spot on chromosome 2 (an overlapping segment), but they do not also match the Finks tester, they then are not a Finks/Thompson match and are on the side of the chromosome inherited from the Seelye Campbell family. Whether they match the Seelye tester or not.
We can use one test to define it's unknown opposite.
When I contact matches, usually they are the only members of their families that have tested. So I am in a minority in that case because I can definitively place a match on my mother's or father's side. So far though, I have amazing clues that seem to add up to something, like the odd amount of Stinsons/Stevensons in some of my matches trees. But without a clear paper trail leading me to them, I have not the slightest idea where they might fit in.
To me, that means I need to be creative about finding more possible paper records for family members and also I need to help define the boundaries of my related families. Obviously the best next step for me would be to test either a grandfather or grandmother, but I have none of those left. So now I intend to feel around the edges of those people to see if I can get a picture of what they might be like.
Like judging the size of a planet by noting it's gravitational pull on things around it.
On my paternal side, I have these four family groups defined by my grandparents. My grandfather is Finks/Thompson and my grandmother is Seelye/Campbell. I am lucky to have a living sibling of my grandmother and even luckier that he has agreed to test. So, I can define the Seelye Campbell line in a chunk.
Nicely I've gotten some recent nearer matches that appear to me to be on my Seelye/Campbell side. One on the Seelye side in the form of a Beadle who matches with a third great grandparent Beadle family. The second is a match on the Campbell side which carries a nice big chunk of the X for my dad. My dad's X is an exact copy of one of my grandmother's X chromosomes and so that maternal match makes complete sense. The common ancestors are third great grandparents to my father, The Abbes.
So getting my dad's Seelye uncle tested may help bring all of that together and may help tie up many other matches as well. Hopefully he shares enough DNA in common with my father to split some people off into respective family groups.
Next, I need to help define the Thompson Finks family. My grandfather has no siblings that I know of, so we're going to attempt to get a first cousin of his, on the Finks side, to provide their DNA. Because it's a cousin it likely will not be as good a match as the Seelye Uncle, but the hope is that we can identify some of our Finks matches and help tie them up.
Last but not least, the Thompsons can come from a number of sources, most second cousins of my father. It may be possible to pull together at least one other direct descendant of Levi Thompson for testing as well as living Williamson relatives, but they will require a bit more work as they have not all been identified.
It's good to remember that when I'm looking at results, I can help define Seelye matches, but I can also use the same results to define those who are NOT Seelye matches.
As an example, if my father matches up with the Finks tester on chromosome 2 220000 to 320000 and he has another match in roughly the same spot on chromosome 2 (an overlapping segment), but they do not also match the Finks tester, they then are not a Finks/Thompson match and are on the side of the chromosome inherited from the Seelye Campbell family. Whether they match the Seelye tester or not.
We can use one test to define it's unknown opposite.
Friday, August 17, 2012
Stinsons
Last year while working with two different genetic matches at 23 and me, I noticed that they shared the same Stinson and Bailey family. In particular they shared James Bailey and Margaret Stinson. Because these two people matched me on different chromosomes, I put it off as an interesting coincidence among people with roots in Virginia. Since I also have roots in VA, it's possible our match is there somewhere.
Here is a link to a family tree containing the Baileys: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/l/a/Norman-R-Blankenship-VA/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0237.html
This year working with two more matches, this time they do share a match on the same chromosome, I found that one of them has a Stinson family and that the match is most likely on the branch of their family tree with the Stinson in it married to a Burkett. Their Stinsons go to the Carolinas. They also overlap with a person who has Stinsons, Barbers and Boulwares from South Carolina:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=marciamcclure&id=I5678
It turns out the Stinsons are Stephensons from Scotland. So I independently have four matches with Stinson/Stephenson connections.
There is a yest another person in this research mix who has no Stinsons (call her J) that I have seen so far, but does have a lot of Scots who move into Canada. On my grandmother's side, I also have Scots who move into Canada, but no Stinsons.
On the list of names from the memorial linked above, I do see some I recognize like the Strouds that appear to be linked to so many of my genetic matches and the Johnstons from J's family tree. I also see Baileys from my matches last year (along with Stinsons of course). So this group from South Carolina may have more meaning for me than I can fully realize now. Should I be looking for Stinsons and Stephensons in Indiana. Could these be a clue to Henry Williamson's wife or mother? Are they connected to my Finks or McQueen family? Is there more for me in Canada than I have seen so far?
Here is a link to a family tree containing the Baileys: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/l/a/Norman-R-Blankenship-VA/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0237.html
This year working with two more matches, this time they do share a match on the same chromosome, I found that one of them has a Stinson family and that the match is most likely on the branch of their family tree with the Stinson in it married to a Burkett. Their Stinsons go to the Carolinas. They also overlap with a person who has Stinsons, Barbers and Boulwares from South Carolina:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=marciamcclure&id=I5678
It turns out the Stinsons are Stephensons from Scotland. So I independently have four matches with Stinson/Stephenson connections.
There is a yest another person in this research mix who has no Stinsons (call her J) that I have seen so far, but does have a lot of Scots who move into Canada. On my grandmother's side, I also have Scots who move into Canada, but no Stinsons.
On the list of names from the memorial linked above, I do see some I recognize like the Strouds that appear to be linked to so many of my genetic matches and the Johnstons from J's family tree. I also see Baileys from my matches last year (along with Stinsons of course). So this group from South Carolina may have more meaning for me than I can fully realize now. Should I be looking for Stinsons and Stephensons in Indiana. Could these be a clue to Henry Williamson's wife or mother? Are they connected to my Finks or McQueen family? Is there more for me in Canada than I have seen so far?
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