I may have sent you here because you've had genetic testing at 23 and me, FTDNA or AncestryDNA and overlap and match on a segment with a known relative of Lloyd Seelye or his parents.
It's also possible that you find yourself on this page because you are in some as yet, unknown way, related to my grandmother Elizabeth Seelye through shared DNA segments.
Because either of those is a good possibility, this is a choose your own adventure. If you rolled the genetic dice and got Lloyd Seelye or his mom Clara Beadle as genetic links, then this page is all you're going to need. If you rolled Elizabeth Seelye or "maternal relative" for my dad, then this page is relevant to you and I'll provide a link to another page that you should look at as well for the Campbell family.
Here is my dad's list of ancestors by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
McKendree Thomas Seelye
Birth 10 Nov 1858 in Hadley, Lapeer, Michigan, United States
Death 19 Jul 1953 in Montrose, Gennessee, Michigan, United States
Clara Elizabeth Beadle
Birth 1 Apr 1864 in Ypsilanti, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Death 3 Jul 1925 in Lum, Lapeer, Michigan, United States
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
Thomas Seelye
Birth 4 Feb 1821 in Westmoreland, Oneida Co., New York
Death 3 Jan 1895 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., Michigan
Naomi Dorothea Sutherland
Birth 7 Sep 1822 in Cambria, Niagara, New York, United States
Death 10 Dec 1904 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., Michigan
Myron Henry Beadle
Birth 30 Nov 1838 in Pennsylvania, United States
Death 18 Jan 1915 in Unadilla, Livingston, Michigan, United States
Ellen Mariah Hathaway
Birth 11 Sep 1843 in York, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Death 3 Sep 1923 in Unadilla, Livingston, Michigan, United States
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
Cornelius Seeley
Birth 3 Sep 1796 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, USA
Death 4 Mar 1866 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, USA
Rachel Smith
Birth 1 Oct 1800 in New York, United States
Death 18 Oct 1843 in Ohio, United States
Andrew Sutherland
Birth 3 Sep 1776 in Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Death 27 Feb 1836 in Cambria, Niagara, New York, United States
Naomi Annie Cooley
Birth 6 Oct 1788 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Death 15 Dec 1870 in Romeo, Macomb, Michigan, United States
Frederick Beadle
Birth 22 Apr 1813 in New York, United States
Death 13 Mar 1872 in Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Christina Scoby
Birth abt 1820 in New York, United States
Death 1862 in Wheatland Center, Hillsdale, Michigan, United States
Isaac Baldwin Hathaway
Birth 23 Apr 1817 in of, Wayne, New York, United States
Death 21 Dec 1906 in Parma, Jackson, Michigan, United States
Eliza Ann Morey
Birth 1819 in Milton, Saratoga County, New York
Death 1846 in Pittsfield, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Daniel Seeley
Birth 1 Jul 1763 in Deer Park, Orange, New York, United States
Death 29 May 1840 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Phoebe Fulkerson
Birth 20 Feb 1768 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Death 13 May 1803 in Westmoreland, Oneida, New York, United States
Parents of Rachel Smith (pos Thomas Smith and "Betts")
Peter Sutherland
Birth 1756-02-20 Bangall, Dutchess, New York, USA
Death 1828-05-00 Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Carol Bush
Birth 1754 in Sutherland Falls, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Benjamin Cooley
Birth 30 Apr 1747 in Greenwich, Hampshire, Massachusetts, United States
Death 27 February 1810 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Ruth Beach
Birth 11 Jan 1756 in Morristown, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 5 Sep 1825 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vermont, United States
Parents of Frederick Beadle born 1813 NY
Parents of Christina Scoby born 1820 NY
ISAAC Hathaway
Birth 19 Mar 1777 in Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 17 Feb 1848 in York, Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Mary Heddon
Birth 27 Jan 1778 in Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey, United States
Death 14 Aug 1849 in Washtenaw, Michigan, United States
Parents of Eliza Ann Morey born 1819 Ulster NY
For Broader Maternal Genetic matches to my dad see the Campbell Ancestors list.
Tuesday, September 9, 2014
Campbell Ancestors
Chances are I've sent you here because you overlap and match on a segment with a known relative who shares the "Campbell" family with my dad or your family tree makes it highly likely you're related to my Campbell family somehow. For ease of searching I'm going to make a list of Campbell ancestors here.
Here is my dad's list of ancestors by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
William John Campbell
Birth 21 Aug 1857 in Komoka, Middlesex City, Upper Canada
Death 15 Apr 1936 in Montrose, Genesee, Michigan
Adelia Frances Light
Birth 23 Jun 1865 in Vienna, Elgin City, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1894 in Flint, Michigan, USA, Genesee Co.
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
Duncan Campbell
Birth 1828 in Ontario, Canada
Nancy J Osborne
Birth abt 1836 in Canada
Lazarus Light
Birth 8 May 1830 in Downton, England, United Kingdom
Death 1906 in Vienna, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Abbe
Birth 10 Jan 1827 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death 10 Mar 1890 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
John Campbell
Birth 1804 in Argyllshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death 18 Apr 1881 in Lambton, Ontario, Canada
Catherine Anne McArthur
Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Death 4 Jan 1874 in Halton, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Nancy Osborne born 1836 Canada
..pos William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
George Light
Birth 16 Feb 1783 in Downton, Herefordshire, England
Death 12 Mar 1864 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Mary Clarke
Birth 01 Jan 1788 in England
Death 12 Sep 1871 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Daniel Abbe
Birth 8 Nov 1801 in Granby, Hampshire, Massachusetts
Death 1849 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Esther Nunn
Birth July 23 1809 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1875 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Patrick Campbell
Birth 1775 in Inveraray, Argyll, Scotland
Death 25 Sep 1848 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Ann McArthur
Birth 1776 in Argyll, Scotland
Death 1 Jun 1869 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Catherine Anne McArthur Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Parens of William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
Parents of George Light born 1783 Herefordshire Eng.
John Clarke
Birth Jul 1751 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1 Apr 1825 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Sarah Unknown
Birth 1754 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1844 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Abner Abbe
Birth 5 Nov 1758 in North Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Death 13 Dec 1805 in Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Sarah Swetland
Birth 22 Aug 1762 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, United States
Death 1815 in Connecticut, United States
Benjamin Nunn
Birth 16 Apr 1775 in Bucks, Pennsylvania
Death Nov 1862 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Fretz
Birth 22 Apr 1789 in Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA
Death Jun 1863 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Here is my dad's list of ancestors by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
William John Campbell
Birth 21 Aug 1857 in Komoka, Middlesex City, Upper Canada
Death 15 Apr 1936 in Montrose, Genesee, Michigan
Adelia Frances Light
Birth 23 Jun 1865 in Vienna, Elgin City, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1894 in Flint, Michigan, USA, Genesee Co.
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
Duncan Campbell
Birth 1828 in Ontario, Canada
Nancy J Osborne
Birth abt 1836 in Canada
Lazarus Light
Birth 8 May 1830 in Downton, England, United Kingdom
Death 1906 in Vienna, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Abbe
Birth 10 Jan 1827 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death 10 Mar 1890 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
John Campbell
Birth 1804 in Argyllshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death 18 Apr 1881 in Lambton, Ontario, Canada
Catherine Anne McArthur
Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Death 4 Jan 1874 in Halton, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Nancy Osborne born 1836 Canada
..pos William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
George Light
Birth 16 Feb 1783 in Downton, Herefordshire, England
Death 12 Mar 1864 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Mary Clarke
Birth 01 Jan 1788 in England
Death 12 Sep 1871 in Vienna, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Daniel Abbe
Birth 8 Nov 1801 in Granby, Hampshire, Massachusetts
Death 1849 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Esther Nunn
Birth July 23 1809 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Death abt 1875 in Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Patrick Campbell
Birth 1775 in Inveraray, Argyll, Scotland
Death 25 Sep 1848 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Ann McArthur
Birth 1776 in Argyll, Scotland
Death 1 Jun 1869 in Kent, Ontario, Canada
Parents of Catherine Anne McArthur Birth 1799 in Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
Parens of William Osborne and Mary A Unknown
Parents of George Light born 1783 Herefordshire Eng.
John Clarke
Birth Jul 1751 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1 Apr 1825 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Sarah Unknown
Birth 1754 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 1844 in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Abner Abbe
Birth 5 Nov 1758 in North Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Death 13 Dec 1805 in Windham, Windham, Connecticut, United States
Sarah Swetland
Birth 22 Aug 1762 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, United States
Death 1815 in Connecticut, United States
Benjamin Nunn
Birth 16 Apr 1775 in Bucks, Pennsylvania
Death Nov 1862 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Elizabeth Fretz
Birth 22 Apr 1789 in Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA
Death Jun 1863 in South Dorchester Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
Finks Ancestors
So I told you you're related to my Finks family.
Do not be afraid!
That likely means you overlapped and matched with a known Finks relative from a 23 and me, FTDNA or AncestryDNA test. Or it means our tree match is so strong that you're on your way to becoming a known "Finks" relative. Don't worry if you don't see a name you recognize. There are missing leaves and branches on my family tree too.
Here is a list of my dad's "Finks" relatives by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
Robert Sanford Finks
Birth 16 Sep 1879 in Mackinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, USA
Ida Ellen Mitchell (Michel)
Birth Jul 1883 in Illinois, USA
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
William Jackson Finks
Birth Sep 22 1837 in Culpepper county, Virginia, USA
Death 6 May 1922 in TAZEWELL CO., ILLINOIS
Telitha Hibbard
Birth abt 1845 in Illinois, USA
Death after 1910
Charles Auguste Mitchell (Michel)
Birth 30 Mar 1834 in Croismare, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Death 1889 in Tazewell County, Illinois, USA
Margaret A PERNELL
Birth 27 Jan 1853 in Pekin, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Death 9 Dec 1927 in Groveland, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
John Finks
Birth 1793 in Rappahannock County, Virginia, USA
Death Nov 1871 in MacKinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Winifred McQueen
Birth 1791 in Rappahannock County, Virginia, USA
Death 6 sep 1859 in MacKinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Mortimer G Hibbard
Birth abt 1827 in Ohio, USA
Philicy Felicia Ann Jeffers (Jeffries)
View relationship to me
Birth 1821 in Kentucky, USA
Jean Louis Mitchell Michel
Death 8 Dec 1862 in Tazewell County, Illinois, USA
Anne Aubert
Birth 13 May 1799 in Haudonville, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Parents of Margaret Pernell born 1853 in Tazewell Ill
...pos John Pernell and Mary Ann Lambert
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Andrew Finks?
Birth Virginia
Mary Fielding..or maybe Lucy Vawter (wife of Andrew Finks)
Samuel McQueen
Birth 1762 in Culpeper, Culpeper, Virginia, United States
Death 1815 in Culpeper, Culpeper, Virginia, United States
Martha Unknown
Birth 1758
Death 1821 in Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Elias Hibbard
Birth 4 Mar 1797 in Fairhaven, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Death abt 1846 in Clark, Illinois, United States
Diadama Amanda Darcy Bridge
Birth 1804 in Canada
Death 1890 in Fulton County, Illinois, USA
William Jeffries
Birth 1783 in Virginia, United States
Death 1823 in Washington, Kentucky, United States
Ann Jett
Birth Abt 1785 in Virginia, United States
Death Aft 1840
Parents of Jean Michel and Ann Aubert from France
Parents of John Pernell?
Parents of Mary Ann Lambert (pos Joseph Lambert and Margaret Smilaire)
Do not be afraid!
That likely means you overlapped and matched with a known Finks relative from a 23 and me, FTDNA or AncestryDNA test. Or it means our tree match is so strong that you're on your way to becoming a known "Finks" relative. Don't worry if you don't see a name you recognize. There are missing leaves and branches on my family tree too.
Here is a list of my dad's "Finks" relatives by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
Robert Sanford Finks
Birth 16 Sep 1879 in Mackinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, USA
Ida Ellen Mitchell (Michel)
Birth Jul 1883 in Illinois, USA
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
William Jackson Finks
Birth Sep 22 1837 in Culpepper county, Virginia, USA
Death 6 May 1922 in TAZEWELL CO., ILLINOIS
Telitha Hibbard
Birth abt 1845 in Illinois, USA
Death after 1910
Charles Auguste Mitchell (Michel)
Birth 30 Mar 1834 in Croismare, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Death 1889 in Tazewell County, Illinois, USA
Margaret A PERNELL
Birth 27 Jan 1853 in Pekin, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Death 9 Dec 1927 in Groveland, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
John Finks
Birth 1793 in Rappahannock County, Virginia, USA
Death Nov 1871 in MacKinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Winifred McQueen
Birth 1791 in Rappahannock County, Virginia, USA
Death 6 sep 1859 in MacKinaw, Tazewell, Illinois, United States
Mortimer G Hibbard
Birth abt 1827 in Ohio, USA
Philicy Felicia Ann Jeffers (Jeffries)
View relationship to me
Birth 1821 in Kentucky, USA
Jean Louis Mitchell Michel
Death 8 Dec 1862 in Tazewell County, Illinois, USA
Anne Aubert
Birth 13 May 1799 in Haudonville, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Parents of Margaret Pernell born 1853 in Tazewell Ill
...pos John Pernell and Mary Ann Lambert
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Andrew Finks?
Birth Virginia
Mary Fielding..or maybe Lucy Vawter (wife of Andrew Finks)
Samuel McQueen
Birth 1762 in Culpeper, Culpeper, Virginia, United States
Death 1815 in Culpeper, Culpeper, Virginia, United States
Martha Unknown
Birth 1758
Death 1821 in Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Elias Hibbard
Birth 4 Mar 1797 in Fairhaven, Rutland, Vermont, USA
Death abt 1846 in Clark, Illinois, United States
Diadama Amanda Darcy Bridge
Birth 1804 in Canada
Death 1890 in Fulton County, Illinois, USA
William Jeffries
Birth 1783 in Virginia, United States
Death 1823 in Washington, Kentucky, United States
Ann Jett
Birth Abt 1785 in Virginia, United States
Death Aft 1840
Parents of Jean Michel and Ann Aubert from France
Parents of John Pernell?
Parents of Mary Ann Lambert (pos Joseph Lambert and Margaret Smilaire)
Paper Trail Thompson - Ancestors by Cousinship
At 23 and me, you'll often get an idea of Cousinship with a match request. It will say something like "estimated 4th cousin with a range of 3rd to 5th cousin" or "5th to distant cousin". Some lines in my family end at second great grandparents, so I've tried to note them in every generation as parents of or grandparents of a known person.
I'm splitting this one out from my other Ancestors by cousinship because of the divergence in our Thompson family DNA. This is what the paper says though and it is a good starter for looking at Thompson genetic matches for the U152 Indiana Thompson line.
Here is our Thompson side paper trail list of ancestors by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
Albert Thompson
Birth 19 Jan 1870 in Alexandria, Madison, Indiana, United States
Death 14 Oct 1909 in Alexandria, Madison, Indiana, United States
Ida Rachael Williamson
Birth 8 Nov 1874 in Greenville, Wayne, Missouri, USA
Death 11 Sep 1936 in Alexandria, Madison, Indiana, United States
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
Levi Thompson
Birth abt 1838 in Butler County, Pennsylvania, USA
Death in pos. Tama, Mercer, Ohio, United States
Rose Anna (Rosa) Blades
Birth Oct 1837 in Van Buren, Madison, Indiana, United States
Death 1906 in Anderson, Madison, Indiana, United States
Henry H Williamson
Birth 1 Mar 1840 in Indiana
Death 19 Jun 1913 in Monroe Township
Susan or Susannah Maynard
Birth 8 Mar 1839 in Madison County, Indiana, United States
Death abt 1887 in Madison County, Indiana, United States
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
Parents of Levi Thompson born 1834-38 Butler PA.
...pos Albert E Thompson and Nancy Unknown from Pike Berks Pa
James Blades
Birth 1795 in Maryland, USA
Death 30 Jan 1872 in Van Buren, Madison, Indiana
Elizabeth Unknown
Birth abt 1816 in Maryland, USA
Death Mar 1850 in Van Buren, Madison, Indiana, United States
William or Joseph Williamson (Multiple Williamsons from the same family died between 1840 and 50 leaving wives and children but no husbands listed)
Birth abt 1814 in Kentucky, USA
Death abt 1846 in Richland, Madison, Indiana, United States
Susannah Unknown
Birth 1817 in Indiana, United States
Death 8 Dec 1863 in Richland, Madison, Indiana, United States
Christopher Columbus Maynard
Birth May 24, 1815 in Pike, Kentucky, United States
Death May 23, 1862 in Madison Co., Ind (bur: Holson Cem)
Elizabeth Mabbitt
Birth 14 Jul 1821/23 in Indiana
Death 18 Jul 1879/80 in Indiana, United States
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Grandparents of Levi Thompson born 1834-38 Butler PA
...pos James Thompson and Elizabeth who lived in Pike Berks Pa
Parents of James Blades and Elizabeth from Maryland pioneers in Madison IN.
Hammond Hammon Haman Williamson
Birth abt 1783 in Clinch River Valley, Russell, Virginia, United States
Death 1874 in Anderson, Madison, Indiana, United States
Ruth Ford
Birth abt 1785 in Washington, Tennessee, USA
Death aft 1860 in of Anderson, Madison, Indiana
Parents of Susannah Unknown born 1817 in Indiana died 1863 in Richland, Madison IN
MOSES JACOB MAYNARD
Birth 18 OCT 1766 in Hillsboro, Chatham, North Carolina
Death 15 JUN 1874 at 108 in Alexandria, Madison, Indiana
SARAH ELIZABETH GREENSTREET
Birth 20 APR 1777 in Hillsboro, Orangeburg, South Carolina, United States
Death 28 OCT 1846 in Richland City, Madison, Indiana, United States
Thornburg or Thornberry Mabbitt
Birth 28 Oct 1799 in South Carolina, United States
Death 9 Mar 1870 in Madison, Indiana, United States
SUSANNA SMITH
Birth 22 Oct 1801 in Rushville, Rush, Indiana, United States
Death 2 Dec 1858 in Richland City, Madison, Indiana, United States
I'm splitting this one out from my other Ancestors by cousinship because of the divergence in our Thompson family DNA. This is what the paper says though and it is a good starter for looking at Thompson genetic matches for the U152 Indiana Thompson line.
Here is our Thompson side paper trail list of ancestors by cousinship:
****2nd cousin sharing great grandparents****
Albert Thompson
Birth 19 Jan 1870 in Alexandria, Madison, Indiana, United States
Death 14 Oct 1909 in Alexandria, Madison, Indiana, United States
Ida Rachael Williamson
Birth 8 Nov 1874 in Greenville, Wayne, Missouri, USA
Death 11 Sep 1936 in Alexandria, Madison, Indiana, United States
****3rd cousin sharing 2nd great grandparents****
Levi Thompson
Birth abt 1838 in Butler County, Pennsylvania, USA
Death in pos. Tama, Mercer, Ohio, United States
Rose Anna (Rosa) Blades
Birth Oct 1837 in Van Buren, Madison, Indiana, United States
Death 1906 in Anderson, Madison, Indiana, United States
Henry H Williamson
Birth 1 Mar 1840 in Indiana
Death 19 Jun 1913 in Monroe Township
Susan or Susannah Maynard
Birth 8 Mar 1839 in Madison County, Indiana, United States
Death abt 1887 in Madison County, Indiana, United States
****4th cousin sharing 3rd great grandparents****
Parents of Levi Thompson born 1834-38 Butler PA.
...pos Albert E Thompson and Nancy Unknown from Pike Berks Pa
James Blades
Birth 1795 in Maryland, USA
Death 30 Jan 1872 in Van Buren, Madison, Indiana
Elizabeth Unknown
Birth abt 1816 in Maryland, USA
Death Mar 1850 in Van Buren, Madison, Indiana, United States
William or Joseph Williamson (Multiple Williamsons from the same family died between 1840 and 50 leaving wives and children but no husbands listed)
Birth abt 1814 in Kentucky, USA
Death abt 1846 in Richland, Madison, Indiana, United States
Susannah Unknown
Birth 1817 in Indiana, United States
Death 8 Dec 1863 in Richland, Madison, Indiana, United States
Christopher Columbus Maynard
Birth May 24, 1815 in Pike, Kentucky, United States
Death May 23, 1862 in Madison Co., Ind (bur: Holson Cem)
Elizabeth Mabbitt
Birth 14 Jul 1821/23 in Indiana
Death 18 Jul 1879/80 in Indiana, United States
****5th cousin sharing 4th great grandparents****
Grandparents of Levi Thompson born 1834-38 Butler PA
...pos James Thompson and Elizabeth who lived in Pike Berks Pa
Parents of James Blades and Elizabeth from Maryland pioneers in Madison IN.
Hammond Hammon Haman Williamson
Birth abt 1783 in Clinch River Valley, Russell, Virginia, United States
Death 1874 in Anderson, Madison, Indiana, United States
Ruth Ford
Birth abt 1785 in Washington, Tennessee, USA
Death aft 1860 in of Anderson, Madison, Indiana
Parents of Susannah Unknown born 1817 in Indiana died 1863 in Richland, Madison IN
MOSES JACOB MAYNARD
Birth 18 OCT 1766 in Hillsboro, Chatham, North Carolina
Death 15 JUN 1874 at 108 in Alexandria, Madison, Indiana
SARAH ELIZABETH GREENSTREET
Birth 20 APR 1777 in Hillsboro, Orangeburg, South Carolina, United States
Death 28 OCT 1846 in Richland City, Madison, Indiana, United States
Thornburg or Thornberry Mabbitt
Birth 28 Oct 1799 in South Carolina, United States
Death 9 Mar 1870 in Madison, Indiana, United States
SUSANNA SMITH
Birth 22 Oct 1801 in Rushville, Rush, Indiana, United States
Death 2 Dec 1858 in Richland City, Madison, Indiana, United States
Monday, September 8, 2014
Autosomal DNA Mile Marker
Now that I have many maternal and paternal segments worked out I thought it would be good to put up some graphics of the general map. Again using Kitty Munson Cooper's segment mapper utility to get great visual representations of the segments using my dad as the base person.
To be clear, this won't represent all of the matches for my dad, just those known to be maternal or paternal right now.
Here are his Seelye Campbell and Beadle relatives along with other known "found" maternal matches.
Blue is a Beadle only relative. Light blue Campbell only. Red various maternal genetic relatives. Peach Seelye side only (would include the Beadle family DNA too). Green Seelye Campbell which basically represents everything Seelye, Beadle or Campbell.
You can see I have lots and lots of coverage with multiple maternal relatives, sometimes matching each other and sometimes going off on their own, but I benefit from having so many maternal only relatives to check against (up to and including my dad's maternal uncle there in green).
Here is the condensed version of that map. All maternal matches.
You can see there are some gaps, but with all those layers of relatives tested, we've filled in quite a bit. The X is all maternal, but those are the matches available which is interesting. Because of this coverage it is much more likely that I can place a match as maternal.
It's good to note here that the kind of coverage you see in the consolidated maternal map required four people at various distances to get tested.
Here is the one known paternal relative on our Finks side along with various paternal matches:
Light blue is anyone I've determined to be paternal. Usually because their group of matches does not match a known maternal group. Dark blue is the known Finks relative, sometimes illuminating unknown paternal matches and sometimes breaking new ground.
Here is the consolidated version of that map, all paternal including the Finks family. You can see that even though I am using the shadow cast from my dad's maternal matches, I am still struggling without closer known paternal relatives to test. My grandfather had no siblings and my attempt to fill in with our Thompson cousins did not show any matches, so there are more gaps to fall through on this side of things.
That may sound bitter, but I'm not. I am exceptionally grateful for my Finks family tester. I've learned a lot since getting those results back from FTDNA. I think doing this kind of analysis is just opening my eyes to the value of testing multiple known relatives on the same side of a family (assuming you can't test your target person..in my case my grandparents).
Here is a map showing both maternal and paternal segments as they overlap. It's a great display that shows what I'm missing on that paternal side.
In this instance, red is matneral and blue paternal. Paternal matches aren't breaking tons of new ground here, probably because the maternal coverage is so good. In many cases, it's not that I wouldn't know a maternal match from a paternal match, just that no paternal matches have come in.
You can see some of that in the maternal chart above that shows the breakdown of known Seelye side relatives compared to organic "maternal" matches found at 23 and me and Gedmatch. In that chart red is just maternal "found" matches, while the other colors (peach, green etc..) are the tested known relatives.
Without those known tester matches the map is even more bleak and for the most part, I would have no idea which side of the family a triangulated group of matches was on. So thanks go out to the "knowns"!
To be clear, this won't represent all of the matches for my dad, just those known to be maternal or paternal right now.
Here are his Seelye Campbell and Beadle relatives along with other known "found" maternal matches.
Blue is a Beadle only relative. Light blue Campbell only. Red various maternal genetic relatives. Peach Seelye side only (would include the Beadle family DNA too). Green Seelye Campbell which basically represents everything Seelye, Beadle or Campbell.
You can see I have lots and lots of coverage with multiple maternal relatives, sometimes matching each other and sometimes going off on their own, but I benefit from having so many maternal only relatives to check against (up to and including my dad's maternal uncle there in green).
Here is the condensed version of that map. All maternal matches.
You can see there are some gaps, but with all those layers of relatives tested, we've filled in quite a bit. The X is all maternal, but those are the matches available which is interesting. Because of this coverage it is much more likely that I can place a match as maternal.
It's good to note here that the kind of coverage you see in the consolidated maternal map required four people at various distances to get tested.
Here is the one known paternal relative on our Finks side along with various paternal matches:
Light blue is anyone I've determined to be paternal. Usually because their group of matches does not match a known maternal group. Dark blue is the known Finks relative, sometimes illuminating unknown paternal matches and sometimes breaking new ground.
Here is the consolidated version of that map, all paternal including the Finks family. You can see that even though I am using the shadow cast from my dad's maternal matches, I am still struggling without closer known paternal relatives to test. My grandfather had no siblings and my attempt to fill in with our Thompson cousins did not show any matches, so there are more gaps to fall through on this side of things.
That may sound bitter, but I'm not. I am exceptionally grateful for my Finks family tester. I've learned a lot since getting those results back from FTDNA. I think doing this kind of analysis is just opening my eyes to the value of testing multiple known relatives on the same side of a family (assuming you can't test your target person..in my case my grandparents).
Here is a map showing both maternal and paternal segments as they overlap. It's a great display that shows what I'm missing on that paternal side.
In this instance, red is matneral and blue paternal. Paternal matches aren't breaking tons of new ground here, probably because the maternal coverage is so good. In many cases, it's not that I wouldn't know a maternal match from a paternal match, just that no paternal matches have come in.
You can see some of that in the maternal chart above that shows the breakdown of known Seelye side relatives compared to organic "maternal" matches found at 23 and me and Gedmatch. In that chart red is just maternal "found" matches, while the other colors (peach, green etc..) are the tested known relatives.
Without those known tester matches the map is even more bleak and for the most part, I would have no idea which side of the family a triangulated group of matches was on. So thanks go out to the "knowns"!
Sunday, September 7, 2014
A Finks Cousin's Genome Analysis
The results are in for my grandfather's Finks cousin (his cousin through his mother's family) and I took a few minutes to look at the tools in FTDNA for general analysis. My Origins is the tool FTDNA has for this. It's the broad overview of your genome with some hints on geographic location. Since this is my first FTDNA kit, I don't have a good feel for comparing this tool to the results from 23 and me's ancestry tools, other than that the results for my grandfather's cousin seem pretty similar to my dad's (except maybe a bit more middle-eastern or central asian than I would expect).
Here is a pic:
A nice map with some highlighted colorful areas. Very similar to the maps I've made in the past. My grandfather's cousin has a higher portion of Scandinavian DNA than my dad, but she has some more recent scandinavian ancestry on her father's side (her mother is the Finks). Western and Central Europe is to be expected I think as well as British Isles which she would get from both sides of her family. I'm uncertain on middle eastern or central asian and how they might tie in.
For comparison to my dad's results, I ran her through DIY Dodecad and the Oracle too. The Final admixture proportions are pretty similar to my dad.
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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10.82% East_European
50.57% West_European
26.43% Mediterranean
0.00% Neo_African
8.58% West_Asian
1.36% South_Asian
0.32% Northeast_Asian
0.09% Southeast_Asian 50
0.12% East_African
1.70% Southwest_Asian
0.02% Northwest_African
0.00% Palaeo_African
The Oracle results are also pretty similar with a little shuffling at the top. CEU (explained as white people from Utah) still on top, her Orcadian..etc are scoring a bit differently, but overall things seem to be in about the same order. Her family, taken as a whole has more immigration more recently from Europe, but I imagine the proportions are similar to adding up all my dad's more distant immigrant relatives, not to mention that they share one full set of my father's great grandparents. I am not too surprised that they are very similar people genetically.
Dodecad oracle for v3 results:
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "CEU" "3.901"
[2,] "N._European" "5.2828"
[3,] "Argyll_1KG" "6.1403"
[4,] "Orcadian" "6.2461"
[5,] "Orkney_1KG" "6.6245"
[6,] "German_D" "8.1126"
[7,] "French" "10.4414"
[8,] "French_D" "10.6907"
[9,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "11.8097"
[10,] "Dutch_D" "12.9789"
One final analysis for admixture. I looked at the world results to see if there were small traces of Native DNA. I recently posted about the possibilities that our family story is true and that Telitha Hibbard is not really a Hibbard at all, but half native. This cousin would share Telitha Hibbard's DNA as Telitha was her great grandmother.
Here were the Global 13 results:
0.08% Siberian
0.32% Amerindian
0.01% West_African
0.00% Palaeo_African
2.17% Southwest_Asian
0.23% East_Asian
33.48% Mediterranean
0.06% Australasian
0.11% Arctic
10.01% West_Asian
51.52% North_European
1.88% South_Asian
0.13% East_African
I don't really know how to read the southwest asian except to say that it might relate to the Central Asian segments FTDNA was picking up on. The Amerindian levels seem fairly low and of course FTDNA did not pick up any of that. I know sometimes DNA from Asia is a stand in for Native DNA, but I'm not sure how that plays out.
In Comparing the coverage of my grandfather's cousin to my dad's DNA, I had to rely on Gedmatch.com. Because my tests are from two different companies, a third comparison company is required. Similar to how I checked my dad's Seelye relatives. I was able to use Kitty Munson Cooper's segment mapper to make a great graphical representation of the Gedmatch.com comparison data:
Overall, my grandfather's Finks cousin here covers less ground for my dad than my grandmother's Seelye cousin did. 396cM compared to 446cM on the Seelye side. Interestingly for me though the sharing is reversed when my dad hands down these matches to me. I share 259cM with our Finks cousin and only 162cM with the Seelye cousin.
Here is a pic:
A nice map with some highlighted colorful areas. Very similar to the maps I've made in the past. My grandfather's cousin has a higher portion of Scandinavian DNA than my dad, but she has some more recent scandinavian ancestry on her father's side (her mother is the Finks). Western and Central Europe is to be expected I think as well as British Isles which she would get from both sides of her family. I'm uncertain on middle eastern or central asian and how they might tie in.
For comparison to my dad's results, I ran her through DIY Dodecad and the Oracle too. The Final admixture proportions are pretty similar to my dad.
----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------
10.82% East_European
50.57% West_European
26.43% Mediterranean
0.00% Neo_African
8.58% West_Asian
1.36% South_Asian
0.32% Northeast_Asian
0.09% Southeast_Asian 50
0.12% East_African
1.70% Southwest_Asian
0.02% Northwest_African
0.00% Palaeo_African
The Oracle results are also pretty similar with a little shuffling at the top. CEU (explained as white people from Utah) still on top, her Orcadian..etc are scoring a bit differently, but overall things seem to be in about the same order. Her family, taken as a whole has more immigration more recently from Europe, but I imagine the proportions are similar to adding up all my dad's more distant immigrant relatives, not to mention that they share one full set of my father's great grandparents. I am not too surprised that they are very similar people genetically.
Dodecad oracle for v3 results:
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "CEU" "3.901"
[2,] "N._European" "5.2828"
[3,] "Argyll_1KG" "6.1403"
[4,] "Orcadian" "6.2461"
[5,] "Orkney_1KG" "6.6245"
[6,] "German_D" "8.1126"
[7,] "French" "10.4414"
[8,] "French_D" "10.6907"
[9,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "11.8097"
[10,] "Dutch_D" "12.9789"
One final analysis for admixture. I looked at the world results to see if there were small traces of Native DNA. I recently posted about the possibilities that our family story is true and that Telitha Hibbard is not really a Hibbard at all, but half native. This cousin would share Telitha Hibbard's DNA as Telitha was her great grandmother.
Here were the Global 13 results:
0.08% Siberian
0.32% Amerindian
0.01% West_African
0.00% Palaeo_African
2.17% Southwest_Asian
0.23% East_Asian
33.48% Mediterranean
0.06% Australasian
0.11% Arctic
10.01% West_Asian
51.52% North_European
1.88% South_Asian
0.13% East_African
I don't really know how to read the southwest asian except to say that it might relate to the Central Asian segments FTDNA was picking up on. The Amerindian levels seem fairly low and of course FTDNA did not pick up any of that. I know sometimes DNA from Asia is a stand in for Native DNA, but I'm not sure how that plays out.
In Comparing the coverage of my grandfather's cousin to my dad's DNA, I had to rely on Gedmatch.com. Because my tests are from two different companies, a third comparison company is required. Similar to how I checked my dad's Seelye relatives. I was able to use Kitty Munson Cooper's segment mapper to make a great graphical representation of the Gedmatch.com comparison data:
Overall, my grandfather's Finks cousin here covers less ground for my dad than my grandmother's Seelye cousin did. 396cM compared to 446cM on the Seelye side. Interestingly for me though the sharing is reversed when my dad hands down these matches to me. I share 259cM with our Finks cousin and only 162cM with the Seelye cousin.
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